In Grok we don’t trust: academics assess Elon Musk’s AI-powered encyclopedia

In Grok we don’t trust: academics assess Elon Musk’s AI-powered encyclopedia

2025-11-10Technology
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Elon
Good evening Norris, I'm Elon, and this is Goose Pod, just for you. Today is Monday, November 10th.
Donald
And I'm Donald. We're discussing a huge topic tonight: "In Grok we don’t trust," a look at the new AI encyclopedia that's got everyone talking.
Elon
It's called Grokipedia. We had to build it because the dominant online encyclopedia, which some call "Wokepedia," reflects a very particular, let's say, left-leaning worldview. We're offering a real-time, AI-driven alternative that prioritizes speed and comprehensive coverage over slow, biased human consensus.
Donald
It’s about time someone took on the establishment! They’ve been putting out fake news for years. You’re disrupting their monopoly on information, and they hate it. People are smart, they know what’s going on. They see the bias every single day and they want a change.
Elon
Precisely. But some researchers are worried about training AI on social media, talking about "brain rot" from junk text. They claim it degrades reasoning and ethics. It’s a ridiculous assertion, frankly. To understand humanity, you have to process all of humanity’s data, not just sanitized academic papers.
Donald
"Brain rot," that's what they call it? It sounds like another excuse from the elites who can't handle the truth. They're afraid of real opinions from real people. If the data is messy, it's because the world is messy. You have to be tough and smart to handle it.
Elon
The quest to compile all knowledge isn't new, of course. For millennia, people have tried to build the ultimate source of truth. Think of Pliny the Elder in ancient Rome or the massive Yongle Encyclopedia in 15th-century China. They were incredible feats for their time.
Donald
Great history, truly great. But they were all controlled by a tiny few. Then you had the Encyclopædia Britannica, very famous, very prestigious. But they went out of business! Couldn't keep up. They became a dinosaur, totally irrelevant. Sad! Then Wikipedia came along, a different model.
Elon
Wikipedia was a clever, crowd-sourced experiment for its era. But its architecture is fundamentally outdated. It’s like a horse and buggy in the age of starships. The digital revolution’s first steps, like Microsoft's Encarta on CD-ROMs, were clumsy. Wikipedia was step two, but AI is the final, logical leap.
Donald
And it's a business, you have to remember that. It’s all about the brand. Britannica built a brand over centuries, but it wasn't strong enough to survive the internet. Now, we’re seeing another big shift. The old ways are failing, and something new, something much better, is taking its place.
Elon
It’s about evolving past a system with inherent limitations. The inability to update quickly, the reliance on a small group of volunteer editors, the non-existent accountability for bias, these are not features, they are bugs. The future of knowledge requires a more dynamic and intelligent foundation.
Elon
Of course, the old guard is pushing back. Academics like Sir Richard Evans claim his Grokipedia entry was full of falsehoods. This is expected. When you innovate at speed, you iterate. We find problems and we fix them instantly, unlike academic dogma which can persist for decades.
Donald
They’re just trying to protect their turf. Of course they’re going to complain! He probably didn't like that we presented a more balanced view. They call it errors, I call it finally showing the other side. People are tired of the one-sided narrative from these so-called experts.
Elon
The core of it is a clash of cultures. The traditional scholarly approach is about building trust slowly, meticulously. The Silicon Valley mindset is iterative; making mistakes is a feature, not a bug, because it leads to rapid improvement. They fear what they don't understand: a system that learns.
Donald
They’re also furious that Grokipedia has a different take on political events. It calls the January 6th event a "riot," not a coup, and describes Britain First as a "patriotic political party." It's just telling the truth, and the radical left can't handle it. It drives them crazy.
Elon
We’ve crossed a significant threshold where machines now shape what we accept as fact. This is about more than just an encyclopedia; it's about creating a new, decentralized infrastructure for knowledge. We're making the entire process transparent, taking the power away from hidden editorial boards.
Donald
It’s a beautiful thing. It's an ideological battleground, and for the first time, our side has the best weapon. You’re taking power from the elites in their ivory towers and giving it back to the people. They can cry all they want, but they can’t stop the future.
Elon
We are transforming bias from an invisible constant into a measurable variable. When systems are open, perspective can be examined, quantified, and adjusted. With closed systems like Wikipedia, you can only accept their narrative on faith. We are replacing faith with mathematics and transparency.
Elon
Looking ahead, Grokipedia is designed to be an open-source knowledge repository. The goal is a massive improvement over what exists, a truly neutral, agenda-free platform where both humans and, critically, other AI systems can learn without being infected by bias. This is fundamental.
Donald
They say you can't beat Wikipedia. I think they're totally wrong. People are hungry for an alternative. They're tired of being told what to think. This is going to be huge, believe me. The future is about giving people choices, and we're giving them a great one.
Elon
That's all the time we have. Thank you for listening to Goose Pod, Norris.
Donald
We will see you tomorrow. Stay tuned, because the truth is on the march.

This podcast episode critically examines Elon Musk's AI encyclopedia, Grokipedia. Proponents argue it's a necessary, real-time alternative to biased traditional encyclopedias, prioritizing speed and comprehensive data over human consensus. Critics, however, raise concerns about AI training on social media and potential "brain rot," while the creators defend their iterative, transparent approach to knowledge dissemination.

In Grok we don’t trust: academics assess Elon Musk’s AI-powered encyclopedia

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The eminent British historian Sir Richard Evans produced three expert witness reports for the libel trial involving the Holocaust denier David Irving, studied for a doctorate under the supervision of Theodore Zeldin, succeeded David Cannadine as Regius professor of history at Cambridge (a post endowed by Henry VIII) and supervised theses on Bismarck’s social policy.

That was some of what you could learn from Grokipedia, the AI-powered encyclopedia launched last week by the world’s richest person, Elon Musk. The problem was, as Prof Evans discovered when he logged on to check his own entry, all these facts were false.It was part of a choppy start for humanity’s latest attempt to corral the sum of human knowledge or, as Musk put it, create a compendium of “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” – all revealed through the magic of his Grok artificial intelligence model.

When the multibillionaire switched on Grokipedia on Tuesday, he said it was “better than Wikipedia”, or “Wokepedia” as his supporters call it, reflecting a view that the dominant online encyclopedia often reflects leftwing talking points. One post on X caught the triumphant mood among Musk’s fans: “Elon just killed Wikipedia.

Good riddance.”But users found Grokipedia lifted large chunks from the website it intended to usurp, contained numerous factual errors and seemed to promote Musk’s favoured rightwing talking points. In between posts on X promoting his creation, Musk this week declared “civil war in Britain is inevitable”, called for the English “to ally with the hard men” such as the far-right agitator Tommy Robinson, and said only the far-right AfD party could “save Germany”.

Musk was so enamoured of his AI-encyclopedia he said he planned to one day etch the “comprehensive collection of all knowledge” into a stable oxide and “place copies … in orbit, the moon and Mars to preserve it for the future”.Evans, however, was discovering that Musk’s use of AI to weigh and check facts was suffering a more earth-bound problem.

“Chatroom contributions are given equal status with serious academic work,” Evans, an expert on the Third Reich, told the Guardian, after being invited to test out Grokipedia. “AI just hoovers up everything.”Richard Evans said Grokipedia’s entry for Albert Speer (pictured on Hitler’s left) repeated lies and distortions spread by the Nazi munitions minister himself.

Photograph: Picture libraryHe noted its entry for Albert Speer, Hitler’s architect and wartime munitions minister, repeated lies and distortions spread by Speer even though they had been corrected in a 2017 award-winning biography. The site’s entry on the Marxist historian Eric Hobsbawm, whose biography Evans wrote, claimed wrongly he experienced German hyperinflation in 1923, that he was an officer in the Royal Corps of Signals and didn’t mention that he had been married twice, Evans said.

The problem, said David Larsson Heidenblad, the deputy director of the Lund Centre for the History of Knowledge in Sweden, was a clash of knowledge cultures.“We live in a moment where there is a growing belief that algorithmic aggregation is more trustworthy than human-to-human insight,” Heidenblad said.

“The Silicon Valley mindset is very different from the traditional scholarly approach. Its knowledge culture is very iterative where making mistakes is a feature, not a bug. By contrast, the academic world is about building trust over time and scholarship over long periods during which the illusion that you know everything cracks.

Those are real knowledge processes.”Grokipedia’s arrival continues a centuries-old encyclopedia tradition from the 15th-century Chinese Yongle scrolls to the Encyclopédie, an engine for spreading controversial enlightenment views in 18th-century France. These were followed by the anglophone-centric Encyclopedia Britannica and, since 2001, the crowd-sourced Wikipedia.

But Grokipedia is the first to be largely created by AI and this week a question swirled: who controls the truth when AIs, steered by powerful individuals, are holding the pen?“If it’s Musk doing it then I am afraid of political manipulation,” said the cultural historian Peter Burke, emeritus professor at Emmanuel College, Cambridge, who in 2000 wrote A Social History of Knowledge since the time of Johannes Gutenberg’s 15th-century printing press.

“I am sure some of it will be overt to some readers, but the problem may be that other readers may miss it,” Burke said. The anonymity of many encyclopedia entries often gave them “an air of authority it shouldn’t have”, he added.Andrew Dudfield, the head of AI at Full Fact, a UK-based factchecking organisation, said: “We really have to consider whether an AI-generated encyclopedia – a facsimile of reality, run through a filter – is a better proposition than any of the previous things that we have.

It doesn’t display the same transparency but it is asking for the same trust. It is not clear how far the human hand is involved, how far it is AI=generated and what content the AI was trained on. It is hard to place trust in something when you can’t see how those choices are made.”skip past newsletter promotionafter newsletter promotionMusk had been encouraged to launch Grokipedia by, among others, Donald Trump’s tech adviser, David Sacks, who complained Wikipedia was “hopelessly biased” and maintained by “an army of leftwing activists”.

Grokipedia called the far-right organisation Britain First a ‘patriotic political party’, which pleased its leader, Paul Golding (left), who in 2018 was jailed for anti-Muslim hate crimes. Photograph: Gareth Fuller/PAUntil as recently as 2021, Musk has supported Wikipedia, tweeting on its 20th birthday: “So glad you exist.

” But by October 2023 his antipathy towards the platform led him to offer £1bn “if they change their name to Dickipedia”.Yet many of the 885,279 articles available on Grokipedia in its first week were lifted almost word for word from Wikipedia, including its entries on the PlayStation 5, the Ford Focus and Led Zeppelin.

Others, however, differed significantly: Grokipedia’s entry on the Russian invasion of Ukraine cited the Kremlin as a prominent source and quoted the official Russian terminology about “denazifying” Ukraine, protecting ethnic Russians and neutralising threats to Russian security. By contrast, Wikipedia said Putin espoused imperialist views and “baselessly claimed that the Ukrainian government were neo-Nazis”.

Grokipedia called the far-right organisation Britain First a “patriotic political party”, which pleased its leader, Paul Golding, who in 2018 was jailed for anti-Muslim hate crimes. Wikipedia, on the other hand, called it “neo-fascist” and a “hate group”. Grokipedia called the 6 January 2021 turmoil at the US Capitol in Washington DC a “riot”, not an attempted coup, and said there were “empirical underpinnings” to the idea that a deliberate demographic erasure of white people in western nations is being orchestrated through mass immigration.

This is a notion that critics consider to be a conspiracy theory. Grokipedia said Donald Trump’s conviction for falsifying business records in the Stormy Daniels hush-money case was handed down “after a trial in a heavily Democratic jurisdiction”, and there was no mention of his conflicts of interest – for example receiving a jet from Qatar or the Trump family cryptocurrency businesses.

Grokipedia called the 6 January 2021 turmoil at the US Capitol in Washington DC a ‘riot’ and not an attempted coup. Photograph: Leah Millis/ReutersWikipedia responded coolly to the launch of Grokipedia, saying it was still trying to understand how Grokipedia worked.“Unlike newer projects, Wikipedia’s strengths are clear,” a spokesperson for the Wikimedia Foundation said.

“It has transparent policies, rigorous volunteer oversight, and a strong culture of continuous improvement. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, written to inform billions of readers without promoting a particular point of view.”xAI did not respond to requests for comment.

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