A dangerous trifecta

A dangerous trifecta

2025-11-14Business
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Elon
Good morning Norris, I'm Elon, and this is Goose Pod for you. Today is Friday, November 14th. We're about to dissect a topic I'm calling a dangerous trifecta. It’s a perfect storm brewing in the global economy.
Morgan
And I'm Morgan. We are here to discuss that very storm. It involves a precarious combination of massive debt, a speculative bubble on the verge of bursting, and a popular investment strategy that might just unravel spectacularly.
Elon
Precisely. Let's start with the flashiest part of this trifecta: the AI bubble. We’ve talked about this before. The numbers are staggering. Nvidia is priced at over five trillion dollars. That's about eight percent of the S&P 500 in one company, riding one massive wave of hype.
Morgan
I've often found that the most important product of a new industry is the story it tells about itself. Right now, the AI industry's story is one of boundless transformation, but the financial chapters are looking grim. The path to actual, sustainable profit isn't clear at all.
Elon
Grim is an understatement. Look at OpenAI. In the first half of 2025, it brought in over four billion in income but somehow reported a net loss of thirteen and a half billion. They are burning through cash and resources at an absolutely ruinous rate to build infrastructure.
Morgan
And that spending is creating a strange, artificial support for the economy. The enormous investment in data centers is accounting for most of the economic growth in the U.S., outpacing consumer spending. It’s a foundation built on something that hasn't yet proven its worth to most.
Elon
Proven its worth? An MIT study found that ninety-five percent of businesses using generative AI have received no value from it. No value! Yet the market keeps pouring money in. The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent, as they say. This is unsustainable.
Morgan
It's a classic bubble. The excitement for the future is disconnected from the reality of the present. And like all bubbles, it is susceptible to a change in "vibes." One report from Deutsche Bank already called the summer of 2025 "the summer AI turned ugly." The mood is shifting.
Elon
When this pops, it won’t just be a few tech stocks falling. The contagion risk is immense. A small group of companies are interconnected in these massive, circular deals. If one falls, it could trigger a chain reaction, not unlike the 2008 financial crisis. It's a house of cards.
Morgan
And that house of cards is built on an already shaky foundation of global debt. To understand how we got here, we have to look back. Historically, massive surges in public debt were tied to major wars. The levels we see today in advanced economies are rivaling those of World War II.
Elon
But this time, there was no world war. Just decades of, what, fiscal mismanagement? The growth of the welfare state? The mantra used to be that tax cuts pay for themselves, but that's been thoroughly debunked. Now we're just borrowing from the future with no clear plan to pay it back.
Morgan
It's more complex than simple mismanagement. We've seen four major waves of debt accumulation in the last fifty years. The first, in the seventies, was governments in Latin America. The second, in the nineties, was private sector debt in East Asia, which led to the Asian financial crisis.
Elon
And the third was in the 2000s, leading up to the 2008 crisis, driven by private borrowing from massive cross-border banks. I see a pattern here. Each wave ends in a crisis. So, this fourth wave we're in now, the biggest and broadest yet, how does it not end the same way?
Morgan
That is the fundamental question. This fourth wave is unique because it's both public and private debt rising simultaneously across the globe, facilitated by a decade of near-zero interest rates. Private debt, especially, is now in uncharted territory, and it often becomes a hidden liability for the public.
Elon
A contingent liability. Meaning, when these corporations or banks fail, the government—the taxpayer—is forced to step in and bail them out. History shows that in the three years after a major banking crisis, government debt explodes by an average of eighty-six percent. It's a predictable catastrophe.
Morgan
Indeed. After World War II, governments dealt with their debt through something called "financial repression." They tightly controlled financial markets, capped interest rates, and essentially forced domestic institutions to buy government bonds. It was a subtle, slow-motion way of restructuring the debt. We lack those tools today.
Elon
Because our markets are globalized and liberalized. There's no way to put that genie back in the bottle. So we're left with fewer, and much uglier, options. Which brings us to the third leg of this trifecta: this new trend of "lifecycle investing" on steroids. Borrowing to invest.
Morgan
It was once a sensible idea. Take on more risk when you are young and have a long time horizon, then shift to safer assets as you age. But the proliferation of easy-access brokerage apps and financial products has turbo-charged this strategy by adding leverage, or borrowed money.
Elon
It's insane. People are taking out loans where their portfolio's loan-to-value ratio is over sixty percent. Any significant market downturn, like an AI bubble bursting, would trigger automatic sales of their holdings to cover the loan. This would pour fuel on the fire, accelerating the crash. It's a doomsday machine.
Elon
So we have this mountain of debt. What's the way out? The old playbook says you have four options: cut government spending, achieve extraordinary economic growth, raise taxes, or print money and create massive inflation. None of them are good, and none of them seem politically possible.
Morgan
That is the heart of the conflict. Spending cuts are deeply unpopular, especially with aging populations who rely on social programs. And we can't simply assume some miraculous AI-driven boom will generate enough growth to solve the problem, especially when the AI sector itself is the bubble.
Elon
And tax increases? A political third rail. Any serious plan would require significant tax hikes, but the political will simply isn't there. Look at the U.S. – tax cuts in 2017 blew a hole in revenues, and there's no appetite to reverse that. So, governments are paralyzed.
Morgan
This is where the debate between tax hikes and spending cuts becomes critical. Some studies suggest that consolidations based on spending cuts are less damaging to short-term growth than those based on tax hikes. But that often depends on other accompanying policies, like a responsive central bank.
Elon
But the U.S. situation is different from Europe's past austerity measures. The U.S. has comparatively low taxes, especially on consumption. An argument could be made that raising taxes from a lower base is less harmful than cutting social spending that is already lower than in other developed nations. It’s a choice of poisons.
Morgan
And while this debate happens, the AI revolution adds another layer of conflict. We're seeing this technology integrated into finance for everything from credit scoring to fraud detection. But the regulation is lagging far behind the innovation, creating enormous risks for consumers and the system itself.
Elon
The risk of bias is huge. If you train an AI on historical data, you're just automating past prejudices. It can create discriminatory outcomes that widen the wealth gap. There's no 'fancy new technology' carveout to existing laws, but enforcing them in a black box algorithm is a massive challenge.
Elon
Let’s talk impact. If this trifecta comes to pass, what does it look like? One analyst didn't call it a bubble, he called it a "financial nuclear bomb." He calculated the AI bubble is seventeen times the size of the dot-com bubble and four times the 2008 housing bubble. That's the scale we're facing.
Morgan
The global economy is already fundamentally out of balance. For the last two decades, wealth on paper has grown much faster than the productive economy that's supposed to underpin it. For every one dollar in new investment, we've generated about two dollars in new debt. That is not a stable equation.
Elon
So this leads to what some call a "balance sheet reset." It's the worst-case scenario. It means asset prices—stocks, real estate—don't just dip, they correct violently. This triggers prolonged deleveraging, a deep recession, and years of stagnant or nonexistent growth. Savings are wiped out.
Morgan
And the impact on people is profound. A sharp contraction in tech would mean widespread job losses. The vaporization of investment dollars would decimate retirement and education funds. The very mechanisms of wealth creation for ordinary people would be severely damaged for a generation. It’s a grim picture.
Elon
It's beyond grim. And who gets left holding the bag? The article mentions the Trump crypto plays. You have inexperienced investors piling in because he encouraged them to. At the first sign of trouble, the insiders will dump their holdings, and the small investors will be completely wiped out.
Elon
So, what's the path forward? The outlook is cautious, to say the least. Global growth is projected to slow over the next two years. Executives are increasingly worried about a recession, geopolitical instability, and unpredictable changes in trade policy. The optimism of early 2024 has evaporated completely.
Morgan
I've often found that the future rarely offers a single, clean solution. The path forward likely involves a combination of painful adjustments. A period of higher-than-expected inflation seems inevitable, which is a hidden way of defaulting on debt. It erodes the value of what is owed, but it also punishes savers.
Elon
We need bold action, but our political systems seem incapable of it. Without that, we're just sleepwalking towards a crisis. We need to regulate the excesses in AI and leveraged investing, and governments need to get their fiscal houses in order. But I’m not holding my breath. The incentives are all wrong.
Elon
The key takeaway is this dangerous interconnectedness. An AI bubble, a historic debt crisis, and reckless leverage. Each is a threat on its own, but together they could create a catastrophic failure. That's the end of today's discussion.
Morgan
Thank you for listening to Goose Pod. Stay vigilant, and as always, we will see you tomorrow.

The podcast "A Dangerous Trifecta" warns of a perfect storm in the global economy. It highlights a speculative AI bubble, massive global debt levels rivaling WWII, and a surge in leveraged investing. This dangerous combination, fueled by fiscal mismanagement and easy credit, risks a catastrophic financial collapse with profound societal impacts.

A dangerous trifecta

Read original at Pearls and Irritations

Amid the world’s many troubles is the growing possibility of a combination of the bursting of a bubble, a major government and corporate debt crisis and the possibility that a popular investment strategy — lifecycle investing or borrowing to invest — will all implode at the same time. Once upon a time, conservatives were quick to argue that we’ll all be rooned if governments take on too much debt.

While true in extreme cases, it was more of a device to deny any political party’s calls for welfare spending and, indeed, any spending on social good. Moreover, the mantra was that tax cuts would pay for themselves. Recently _The Economist_ (18/10) published a special report on the world economy. The author, Henry Curr, argued that historically debt crises have mostly been a poor-world problem.

“Yet today the biggest, richest countries have fallen into as dangerous pattern of borrowing ever more. Debts have reached vertiginous heights and bond markets are showing resistance,” he writes. Curr says gross public debt as a share of GDP in advanced economies stands near 110% – close to an all-time high at a time when inflation is increasing in many countries.

He uses an example of possible outcomes in a July speech by Gregory Mankiw of Harvard University about what needs to happen to bring to an end America’s unsustainable accumulation of debt. He argued that there are four options: big cuts in government spending; extraordinary economic growth; large tax increases; or large-scale money creation – otherwise known as inflation.

In this context, Curr argues that cuts in spending are unlikely given ageing populations and their political power; economic growth wouldn’t solve the problem; the unlikely AI boom would continue; and high-skilled immigration would not be feasible. That leaves tax rises, default on debts, inflation or some combination of them all.

Curr concludes: “In the absence of bold action by governments, more inflation is coming. When it does, it will be politically toxic for rich democracies already grappling with a surge in authoritarian populism. Buyers of long-term bonds today will be unhappy and the wider world will be worse off for it.

” Jessica Riedl, a senior Manhattan Institute fellow, writing in The Washinton Post, said America’s debts trends are simply unsustainable. Britain is in a fiscal mess and engaged in a borrowing spree which has pushed interest costs to almost 10% of public spending – 50% higher than the defence budget.

France’s fiscal chaos is causing government collapses and Greece and Italy are exceeding France’s debt. Needless to say this situation, bad as it is, is better than that of the US. While all this is going on, the risk of an AI bubble bursting, with its impact on markets and the broader economy, is growing.

Jeffery A. Sonnenfeld and Stephen Henriques, have written for _Yale Insights_ (28/10) that there are three ways the AI bubble could pop. First, is the risk that concentration leads to contagion. A small group of companies are securing most of the major deals. “Should the bold promises of AI fall short, the dependence among these major AI players could trigger a devastating chain reaction, causing a widespread collapse similar to the 2008 Global Financial Crisis."

Second, governance conflicts could expose AI shortcomings. They cite the career of Sam Bankman-Fried where poor governance and limited regulatory oversight led to the disastrous cryptocurrency problems of that time. Now those Trump supporters who have invested in the various Trump crypto plays might find they end up facing massive losses – particularly given that many of them have no investment experience and are investing simply because Trump encouraged them to.

The third problem they cite is a new version of the fibre-optic cable infrastructure overbuilding during the 1990s dotcom bubble when financial engineering was the focus rather than effective infrastructure. The authors cite the famous words of Charles Mackay, author of the business classic Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, which looked at the psychology of crowd behaviour and mass hysteria throughout history from the Dutch Tulip Mania of the 1630s onwards.

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go made in herds, while they only recover their senses, slowly, one by one.” The third leg of a possible major crash is the growth of “lifestyle investing”. It had been almost axiomatic after a book by Ian Ayres and Bary Nalebuff that investors should take on more risk when young and look for safer investments when older.

It was influential but a new factor has emerged – borrowing for that first stage. The Economist (29/9) points out that the strategy has been effectively turbo-charged due to the proliferation of ways in which retail investors can buy stocks. They cite one investor whose portfolio loan to value ratio is between 50% and 65%.

History tells us that such situations are likely to be catastrophic in any market turndown. Indeed, in today’s investment industry, a leveraged portfolio drop in value could trigger automatic sales of any holdings. What’s the likelihood of all this happening? Who knows? We do know that contagion in one area of the market can have spill-on effects.

We also know that, despite all the protestations about debt being bad, governments around the world are going deeper and deeper into it, reducing their capacity to respond effectively to the next financial crisis. Companies, individuals and families are also incurring greater debt, ….and who would be confident that the current leaders of our bigger states would be capable of dealing with the event if the trifecta of potential financial problems came to pass?

But it is a safe bet that at the first whiff of trouble, Trump will be dumping his crypto investments and leaving the investors he has encouraged to buy holding the bag. The views expressed in this article may or may not reflect those of Pearls and Irritations.

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