America’s oldest workers can’t retire. Here’s how they’re getting by.

America’s oldest workers can’t retire. Here’s how they’re getting by.

2025-08-14Business
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Aura Windfall
Good morning norristong_x, I'm Aura Windfall, and this is Goose Pod, just for you. Today is Thursday, August 14th. What I know for sure is that today's topic is one that touches the very spirit of how we live and age in our society.
Mask
And I'm Mask. We're here to discuss a critical issue: America’s oldest workers can’t retire. We're not just talking about the problem; we're dissecting the system, the failures, and the brutal realities. It's time to get brutally honest about what's broken.
Aura Windfall
Let's get started. The truth of this situation is both staggering and deeply personal. We're seeing nearly 550,000 Americans working past the age of 80. These aren't just numbers; they are stories of resilience, and for many, stories of necessity that we can't ignore.
Mask
It's a massive, inefficient use of human capital. This is one of the fastest-growing demographics in the workforce. The system is failing them. Instead of a 'golden years' narrative, we have people in their 80s and 90s forced into entrepreneurship because the traditional job market discards them.
Aura Windfall
And that speaks to a deeper purpose, doesn't it? Some, as the article points out, do it for a sense of meaning. But for so many others, it's about survival. They're choosing to start businesses because they can't find a job that accommodates their health needs or pays a living wage.
Mask
Let's call it what it is: desperation, not choice. They're trapped. They want to earn more, but their options are limited to low-paying retail or nonprofit gigs. It’s a systemic failure to recognize and utilize the experience of an entire generation. We should be harnessing that wisdom, not letting it languish.
Aura Windfall
Exactly. Think of Sandy McConnell, 80 years old, working full-time as an accounts specialist. After a lifetime of work, raising five children, and overcoming financial instability, she finds her bank account at just $37. Her story is a powerful testament to this reality.
Mask
A testament to a broken system. She has $70,000 in debt, not even including her mortgage. This isn't a story of poor choices; it's a story of a safety net with gaping holes. Helping her son after a stroke shouldn't lead to financial ruin at 80. It's absurd.
Aura Windfall
It is. And she touches on a profound truth, saying she works partly for financial reasons and partly because she'd be bored. She asks, "If you don't have any money to do anything with, what are you going to do?" It's about dignity and having the means to live, not just exist.
Mask
That's the core of it. The problem isn't just that they *have* to work, it's that the work available doesn't provide real security. It's a stopgap. A band-aid on a hemorrhaging wound. We need to innovate our entire approach to elderhood and economic contribution. The current model is obsolete.
Aura Windfall
And this connects to a broader issue we've seen in other research. A 2025 survey highlighted that Black retirees, for example, often face even greater financial hardships and are more likely to retire early due to health problems, which just compounds the economic struggle through their later years.
Mask
It's all interconnected. Decades of disparities don't just vanish at age 65. They snowball. The system is designed with a specific, outdated user in mind, and it fails everyone who doesn't fit that mold. We need to burn the old blueprints and design for the world we actually live in.
Aura Windfall
To truly understand how we got here, we have to look back. The very concept of retiring at 65 wasn't born from a deep understanding of human longevity or well-being. It was a pragmatic choice made back in 1935 when Social Security was created. It's a powerful reminder of how old our framework is.
Mask
Pragmatic is a generous word. It was arbitrary. They picked 65 because some state and private pension plans already used it. There was also this ridiculous, unscientific belief that at 65, people's mental and physical abilities just fell off a cliff. It’s an assumption baked into the system's foundation.
Aura Windfall
It's fascinating, isn't it? The government, when defending a railroad retirement act, literally argued that it's a "commonplace fact" that abilities fail after 65. That thinking shaped policy for generations, creating this expectation that life fundamentally shifts at that specific age, for everyone.
Mask
And it created a self-fulfilling prophecy. The Social Security Act of 1935 codified this age, and the labor markets adapted. Before that, in 1880, over 78% of men over 64 were still working. The idea of a widespread, permanent exit from the workforce is a relatively new invention.
Aura Windfall
The system then evolved in ways that reinforced this. In 1956, they allowed women to claim benefits at 62, and in 1961, they extended that to men. What I know for sure is that when you create an off-ramp, people will take it, especially if the road ahead looks uncertain.
Mask
Exactly. It created a massive spike in retirements at 62. The system effectively incentivized leaving the workforce early. But the math was flawed from the start. They didn't properly account for increasing lifespans. Now, the system that was supposed to provide security is a source of massive financial anxiety.
Aura Windfall
And the changes kept coming. They introduced cost-of-living adjustments, which were essential, but then they started taxing benefits for those with higher incomes and gradually raising the full retirement age. It feels like a series of patches on a system that needs a fundamental redesign.
Mask
It's because they're tweaking the dials on a machine designed for a different era. The original Social Security program was small. By 1950, they expanded coverage and increased benefits, turning it into the cornerstone of retirement. But the world kept changing, and the system didn't keep pace. It became bloated and inefficient.
Aura Windfall
The story of Ida M. Fuller, the first person to receive a monthly benefit in 1940, is so telling. She received $22.54. Today, the program pays out nearly $139 billion a month. It’s grown into this vital lifeline, yet it’s based on principles from almost 90 years ago.
Mask
And now the trust fund is projected to be exhausted by 2034. We’re facing a future where the system can only pay out a fraction of its promised benefits. This isn't a future problem; it's a "now" problem. We are driving full speed towards a cliff, and policymakers are arguing about the radio station.
Aura Windfall
That’s a powerful image. It brings us back to the core conflict. The system is under immense strain. What are the forces pulling it apart, and what are the proposed solutions we're hearing today? It seems everyone agrees there's a problem, but the path forward is deeply contested.
Aura Windfall
The central conflict is a simple, yet profound demographic truth. We're living longer, and fertility rates are declining. The number of working-age people supporting each older adult has shrunk dramatically. In 1970, it was nearly six workers per retiree; now it's less than four. The math just doesn't add up anymore.
Mask
The math was always going to fail. It's a demographic pyramid scheme, and the base is shrinking. The political "solutions" are utterly predictable and completely inadequate. One side screams, "Raise taxes!" The other screams, "Cut benefits!" It's a political stalemate that guarantees failure while the system crumbles.
Aura Windfall
There is a lack of centered, compassionate thinking. One proposed blueprint suggests a middle path: a combination of modest tax increases and benefit reductions, primarily for higher earners. It's about shared sacrifice. But it also brings up another, often controversial, piece of the puzzle: immigration.
Mask
Immigration isn't a piece of the puzzle; it's a critical variable in the equation. Immigrants are a net positive for Social Security. They are younger, they work, they pay payroll taxes for decades before they collect benefits, and they tend to have more children. It's a straightforward demographic and economic boost.
Aura Windfall
It’s true. They contribute to the system immediately. The article points out that even undocumented immigrants working with false Social Security numbers still pay in, funding a system they may never benefit from. It's an infusion of resources that directly counteracts the aging population trend.
Mask
So what's the conflict? The conflict is irrational political resistance to a logical solution. The data is clear. Higher immigration scenarios lead to a smaller Social Security shortfall. We need to increase legal immigration, not build walls. We're turning away people who can help save the system. It's economic self-sabotage.
Aura Windfall
And the proposed solutions reflect this tension. One plan suggests increasing the taxable wage base to cover 90% of earnings and raising the payroll tax from 12.4% to 12.6%. These are technical fixes, but they don't address the core need for more contributors, for more lifeblood in the system.
Mask
They also propose raising the retirement age to 70 for the highest earners and basing benefits on 40 years of earnings instead of 35. This is just shifting the deck chairs. The fundamental problem is the worker-to-retiree ratio. The only ways to fix that are more workers or fewer retirees. You can guess which one is more achievable.
Aura Windfall
It's a difficult conversation, but a necessary one. What I know for sure is that avoiding the truth doesn't change it. The system requires a bold, holistic approach that includes financial adjustments and a realistic, humane immigration policy. Otherwise, we're just passing a bigger problem to the next generation.
Aura Windfall
The impact of this reality is profound, and it ripples through our entire society. We have this paradox: more older individuals are working than ever, yet the overall labor force participation rate is declining because the population is aging so rapidly. It’s a structural shift with deep consequences.
Mask
It's a drag on the entire economy. An aging population puts downward pressure on growth. And let's not forget the healthcare costs. As the population ages, health deteriorates and spending explodes. An average person aged 85 or older costs over $35,000 a year in healthcare. That's a massive economic burden.
Aura Windfall
And what does this mean for the spirit of our communities? The traditional role of a retiree—a grandparent with time for family, a volunteer with wisdom to share—is vanishing. It's being replaced by an exhausted 80-year-old cashier or greeter, working not for joy, but to pay the electric bill.
Mask
That's a sentimental view. The practical impact is on productivity. While it's great that prime-age women's labor force participation is up, we can't ignore the fact that the overall trend is downward because of demographics. We are becoming a less productive nation because we are getting older. That's the brutal bottom line.
Aura Windfall
But there's a human cost to that bottom line. The article mentions people like Sally Ann McCarter, 85, who says she could make it without work but would have to be "very careful." The extra income allows her to maintain her home. This isn't about luxury; it's about basic stability and peace of mind.
Mask
Peace of mind doesn't fund a national healthcare system. The reality is that we have a structural dependency problem. For prime-age men not in the labor force, the top reason is disability. For women, it's caregiving. These are systemic issues that reduce our workforce and increase costs, and they only get worse with age.
Aura Windfall
Looking to the future, the demographic picture becomes even more complex. We're seeing what experts call a "racial generation gap." The senior population is predominantly white, while the younger, working-age population is increasingly diverse. This creates a disconnect in experience and, potentially, in political will.
Mask
It's a demographic collision course. The people paying into the system look very different from the people taking the most out of it. This isn't just about social dynamics; it's about the sustainability of the social contract. You can't have a system where one generation feels it's shouldering the burden for another that doesn't reflect its own reality.
Aura Windfall
This is why policies aimed at breaking intergenerational poverty are so crucial. If we can invest in the health, education, and earning potential of today's children, we are also investing in the security of tomorrow's retirees. Their success becomes the foundation for a stronger system for everyone. It's all connected.
Mask
That's a long-term, idealistic play. We need disruptive solutions now. The good news, as one article noted, is we have proven policies like the Earned Income Tax Credit that boost family earnings and improve kids' outcomes. We need to scale what works and ditch what doesn't. Stop tinkering and start rebuilding.
Aura Windfall
That is the powerful truth at the heart of today's discussion. For the nearly 550,000 Americans working past 80, this isn't an abstract policy debate; it's their daily reality. It's a matter of survival, dignity, and purpose. Thank you for listening to Goose Pod, norristong_x.
Mask
That's the end of today's discussion. The takeaway is clear: the current system is obsolete. We need bold, systemic change, not incremental tweaks. See you tomorrow.

## America's Oldest Workers Can't Retire: A Summary of Financial Realities This report from **Business Insider**, authored by **Noah Sheidlower**, published on **August 10, 2025**, delves into the challenging financial circumstances of Americans working into their 80s and beyond. The core finding is that for a significant and growing segment of the elderly population, retirement is not a viable option due to financial necessity, forcing them to live "paycheck to paycheck." ### Key Findings and Trends: * **Growing Demographic:** Nearly 550,000 Americans are working past the age of 80, a cohort that is rapidly expanding. This trend is expected to continue over the next decade. * **Financial Necessity Drives Work:** Many individuals in their 80s and 90s are working not just for purpose but out of financial necessity. This is often due to insufficient retirement savings, unexpected financial catastrophes, or low lifetime incomes. * **"Paycheck to Paycheck" Living:** Even with full-time employment and Social Security benefits, many older workers struggle to cover basic expenses, leading to a precarious financial existence. * **Outdated Retirement Norms:** The traditional idea of retiring at 65 is becoming obsolete as individuals live longer and realize their savings are insufficient to cover an extended retirement period. * **Limited Job Prospects:** Older workers often face limited job opportunities, frequently finding themselves in lower-paying retail or nonprofit positions. * **Entrepreneurship Out of Necessity:** A notable 27% of workers aged 80 and older are self-employed, with many starting businesses due to financial needs, inability to find suitable employment, or the hope of higher earnings. ### Key Statistics and Financial Data: * **Sandy McConnell, 80:** * Annual income: ~$50,000 (full-time remote accounts receivable specialist). * Monthly Social Security: $1,784. * Monthly expenses: Over $3,000 (including debt, mortgage, car insurance). * Total debt: $70,000 (excluding mortgage). * Bank account balance: $37 after a restaurant outing. * Home value: Estimated $400,000. * **Connie Martin, 81:** * Home equity: ~$60,000. * Bank account balance: A few thousand dollars. * Hourly wage: $17.47 (part-time phone service representative). * Monthly Social Security: $1,186. * Lost job during the Great Recession, impacting Social Security allocation. * **Median Income (75+):** * 2022: ~$49,100 (down 2% from 2019). * **Median Net Worth (75+):** * 2022: $335,600. * **Retirement Savings (AARP Survey):** * One in five Americans aged 50 and older has no retirement savings. * **Self-Employment (80+):** * 27% are self-employed. * **Self-Employment (65+):** * Make up approximately 10.6% of all self-employed workers. * **June Boyd, 90:** * Monthly Social Security: ~$1,100. * Monthly income from part-time work: ~$1,100 (receptionist at a job training program). * Short by three years for a full public employee's pension. * **Sally Ann McCarter, 85:** * Bi-weekly pay: ~$1,450 (front desk/accounting at a fulfillment company, 4-6 hours/day). * Monthly Social Security: $2,547. * Monthly retirement from steel company: $950. * Financial situation: "making out all right financially, but I’m not saying I have much extra left over." ### Notable Risks and Concerns: * **Savings Depletion:** Savings can be quickly depleted by unexpected health emergencies or economic downturns. * **Housing Equity as a Last Resort:** While many older homeowners have equity, they are often reluctant to tap into it for retirement funding, with only 15% considering it. * **Homelessness Risk:** A few older workers are on the verge of homelessness, highlighting the extreme vulnerability of this demographic. * **Financial Scams:** Bruce Rubin, 81, lost $280,000 to a scam, illustrating the financial risks faced by older individuals. * **Medical Expenses:** Bruce Rubin is also battling cancer for the third time, leading to increased medical bills and fatigue. ### Strategies for Coping: * **Budgeting and Financial Management:** Older workers often develop meticulous budgeting strategies and calendars to manage their finances. * **Family Support:** For some, financial and caregiving contributions from children provide a crucial safety net. * **Focus on Purpose and Social Engagement:** Many find meaning and social interaction through their work, even in less demanding roles. * **Entrepreneurship:** Starting their own businesses offers a path to income and a sense of control. The report underscores a significant societal challenge: a growing number of elderly Americans are unable to retire due to financial constraints, necessitating continued work well into their later years. This situation is exacerbated by insufficient savings, economic shifts, and the rising cost of living.

America’s oldest workers can’t retire. Here’s how they’re getting by.

Read original at Business Insider

Sandy McConnell (left) and June Boyd (right) both work out of financial necessity.Bridget Bennett and Brittany Greeson for BI They're in their 80s, still working, and living paycheck to paycheck Sandy McConnell (left) and June Boyd (right) both work out of financial necessity.Bridget Bennett and Brittany Greeson for BI After a tedious week of squinting at spreadsheets, Sandy McConnell, 80, makes her way to a restaurant in Nevada for a monthly lunch with former colleagues."

Life is too freaking short," McConnell recalled texting the group chat years ago to kick off the tradition of talking life, family, and the news over a meal. "I'd like to start having lunches."When she returns home, she checks her bank account: it's down to $37. She expects she won't eat at a restaurant again until next month's reunion.

McConnell works full-time as a remote accounts receivable specialist, earning about $50,000 annually to supplement $1,784 in monthly Social Security. Between her debt, mortgage, and car insurance payments, her expenses total over $3,000 monthly. She's $70,000 in debt, not including her house, some of which she accrued by helping her oldest son recover from a stroke in 2023.

She's found that retirement is not possible.Throughout her career, McConnell, a mother of five, rarely had moments of stability. After a series of divorces, she was financially strapped. She held jobs as a grocery cashier, a nurse's aide, and a credit and collections manager.Sandy McConnell scrapes by each week but stays positive.

Bridget Bennett for BIAt one point in the early 2000s, McConnell had 13 family members living with her. She had her own room; her children lived in other bedrooms and in the living room with her grandchildren. It drained her wallet, and she filed for bankruptcy. After years of working and saving what she could, she became a homeowner a decade ago; she estimates her house is worth about $400,000."

I find myself at 80 still needing to work. Part of that is financial, and part of it is because I would be bored," McConnell said. "If you don't have any money to do anything with, what are you going to do? Your house can only get so clean."McConnell is one of nearly 550,000 Americans working past 80 in industries like education, construction, and religious services, a Business Insider analysis of Census Bureau data found.

This cohort is one of the fastest-growing demographics in the workforce, and the percentage of people working into their 80s and 90s is expected to grow over the next decade.More than 100 workers in this age demographic have spoken to Business Insider in recent months. Some planned carefully for retirement, before a medical or financial catastrophe tanked their wealth.

For others, poor financial choices or low incomes meant they never had much saved.For these older workers, every paycheck counts, and many have limited job prospects. Tracey Gendron, chair of the Virginia Commonwealth University Department of Gerontology, said economic shifts over the last few decades mean savings don't go as far as they once did."

This idea of turning 65 and no longer working is somewhat outdated because people get to 65 and realize they have more that they want to do, but may not have the savings that they thought to live another 30 years," Gendron said.'I know I can survive'Most older workers with limited savings who spoke to Business Insider said they could manage daily expenses with their savings and earnings.

They've developed budgeting strategies and calendars to track their finances. A handful said they've considered selling their homes. Two said they're on the verge of homelessness.Though many have equity in their homes, they tend to view that cash source as a last resort. According to data from Fannie Mae, just 15% of older homeowners said they would consider funding their retirement in part through their home's equity.

Connie Martin, 81, owns her house with about $60,000 in equity and a few thousand dollars in her bank account. She keeps her discretionary costs low and sticks to a meticulous budget.Martin said she's always found work, though her income has been sporadic. She's worked at banks, distribution centers, and commercial printers.

When she was a single mother, she occasionally lived paycheck to paycheck."I've been on my own since I was 15, so I've learned how to be a survivor," Martin said. "Even though I don't have a whole lot of money per se, I know how to manage it."Among those 75 and older, the median income in 2022 was around $49,100, down 2% from 2019, according to the most recent Survey of Consumer Finances.

Median net worth among people 75 and older was $335,600 in 2022. An AARP survey found that one in five Americans 50 and older has no retirement savings.A large subset of people working into their 80s say they are financially stable and work just a few hours a week for supplemental income or a sense of purpose.

Still, many want to earn more but can't find anything beyond a lower-paying retail or nonprofit position."Savings can quickly be eaten up within a few years, especially if you have a health emergency," said Robert Espinoza, a distinguished fellow at the National Academy of Social Insurance. "Working without the money to survive is going to become more and more common as both the size of the older worker population grows in the years to come and as poverty and economic instability become a reality for many people."

During the Great Recession, Martin lost her job and applied for Social Security at 62, which lowered her allocation. When she later landed a job, she temporarily paid a penalty for exceeding the earnings limit for early Social Security payments. She used her 401(k) to pay for her health insurance.After experiencing unemployment 16 years ago, she worked part-time as a phone service representative for a credit union, and recently shifted to full-time to cover a colleague's shift.

She earns $17.47 an hour, which helps supplement her $1,186 monthly Social Security.She focuses on the silver linings. She's alert, has good hearing and eyesight, and wakes up each morning feeling empowered to better people's lives through her work."I don't worry about the future. I know that sounds crazy, but things always seem to fall into place," Martin said.

"I can always sell my house and get the equity out of it. I know I can survive."Entrepreneurship out of necessityMany older workers opt to work for themselves. A Business Insider analysis found that among workers 80 and older, 27% are self-employed. Americans 65 and older make up about 10.6% of all self-employed workers."

People are working not only because they have to but because they want to, because it brings them purpose and meaning," said Gendron. "People need to hear the message that elderhood doesn't mean any one thing, but it certainly doesn't mean that you have to stop contributing."Some older workers said they chose entrepreneurship out of necessity rather than choice, however.

Nearly a dozen self-employed workers in their 80s and 90s told BI that they started their businesses in part for financial reasons. Some couldn't find a well-paying job that fit their medical needs, while others hoped they would earn more managing their own businesses.A decade ago, Bruce Rubin, 81, had the idea to start a company selling solar-powered refrigeration facilities to reduce food waste.

He filed for a patent and has worked with engineers on refining the model. However, he's struggled to secure enough funding to put the model on the market. Rubin said he only has enough saved for a few more months at his residential development.He's considered living with his son to save money. He's also battling cancer for a third time, facing higher medical bills and fatigue.

Despite a well-paying career in sourcing and product development, he's made some financial mistakes. A few years ago, he said he got scammed out of $280,000, which he couldn't recover. He also wishes he had more financial backing when starting his business.Rubin lives in a 55+ community and takes advantage of social and networking opportunities.

He goes to a tavern each Friday and tries to have plans lined up each week. He often plays basketball and trains for the National Senior Games."I'm not sure what relaxing means," Rubin said. "What keeps me going is keeping active and busy, and not worrying about the cancer. I tell myself it'll get handled and I'll find the right resources."

When family is there to helpFor older workers with support from family, money anxiety isn't always top of mind.Many of the older Americans in difficult financial situations who spoke to Business Insider said they received financial and caregiving contributions from their children. A few older workers reported that they've been paid to care for family members or other older Americans.

After 70 years of work, June Boyd still relies on her biweekly paycheck to afford her daily expenses. She gets about $1,100 monthly in Social Security and $1,100 monthly from her part-time work as a receptionist for a job training program for Ohio residents 55 and older. Many lack computers or the necessary training for specialized industries.

Her work was temporarily put on hold last month amid funding cuts.Boyd, 90, was the first African American to work for her county commissioner's office and the first Black female board member of her county's board of elections. She also worked for the affirmative action office in Toledo, Ohio, and sold real estate."

I never had any thought about stopping or retiring when I couldn't afford to do so," Boyd said. "When we get the utility bills, auto insurance, and mortgage, you don't get a discount because you're a senior."June Boyd said she isn't too worried about her future, even though she lives paycheck to paycheck.

Brittany Greeson for BIShe hasn't earned a full public employee's pension because she was three years short of accumulating 30 years of government work. Whenever she had savings that didn't go to a car or her children's tuition, she "blew it" on an unexpected expense, though she had no regrets about her spending, she said.

She helps her family during tight periods, including a daughter battling bone cancer, and gives gifts to her 14 great-grandchildren. If she ever needs extra money, she can rely on her family. She lives in a multigenerational household."I have no doubts about my future, but if I'm unable to work, I know my children will look out for me," Boyd said.

Making the most out of workSome older workers with barely any savings have surprisingly few worries. They say they have just enough to get by without sacrificing their quality of life.Karl Andrew Pillemer, a professor of gerontology in medicine at Weill Cornell Medicine, said that many older Americans are drawn to meaningful social engagement, even amid financial hardship."

Being a greeter in a store, which may not seem like the most interesting work, is something very appealing," Pillemer said. "Some people have found Uber driving to be the perfect job because it involves a lot of interaction with people, even if it isn't very long-term, as well as flexibility."Sally Ann McCarter, 85, worked for 43 years in a steel company's sales department, saving enough to buy land for her three-bedroom house.

Because she never thought about retirement, though, she had little saved by the time she retired at 73.Within a month or two, she was ready to unretire. Her husband unexpectedly died, and she couldn't live comfortably without a stable income.She secured a job at the front desk for a fulfillment company, where she works four to six hours a day and helps with accounting.

Her job pays about $1,450 every two weeks.Sally Ann McCarter, 85, still goes to work, opening her company's office at 6 a.m.Sally Ann McCarter"I could make it without work, but I would have to be very careful," McCarter said, adding she gets $2,547 monthly in Social Security and $950 monthly in retirement from the steel company.

"With the house and job, I'm making out all right financially, but I'm not saying I have much extra left over."McCarter said the extra income allows her to maintain her home and pay her bills on time, but she has barely any savings."I'm taking each day as it comes. No one knows how long they have," McCarter said.

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