Will.i.am and Execs From LinkedIn, Coca-Cola, Canva and More Talk Innovation, Creativity and AI at Cannes Lions: ‘The Robots Are Not Taking Over’

2025-06-26Technology
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David
听众朋友们大家好,欢迎收听《科技浪潮》。我是主持人 David。
Ema
大家好,我是 Ema。
David
今天是2025年6月26日。Ema,最近戛纳国际创意节上,大佬们有个很有趣的共识:“机器人不会接管世界”。
Ema
对!这太有意思了!你想象一下,像可口可乐、领英、美国运通这些巨头的首席营销官(CMO)们,聚在一起不聊别的,全在聊AI。但他们聊的不是威胁,而是伙伴关系。
David
嗯,伙伴关系这个词很关键。听起来他们把AI看作了一个新员工,而不是一个颠覆者。有什么具体的例子吗?
Ema
当然!比如美国运通,他们发现超过60%的新用户都是Z世代和千禧一代。所以他们不再硬推销,而是去拥抱年轻人的热爱,比如赞助F1赛车和Coachella音乐节。
David
这算是深入到用户的生活方式里去了,而不是简单地打广告。
Ema
没错!还有玛氏公司,就是那个做M&M豆和士力架的。他们用生成式AI做了一个活动,让球迷可以和虚拟的足球教练穆里尼奥互动,互相开玩笑。这完全是邀请消费者一起“共创”品牌了。
David
从单向输出变成了双向互动,这确实是营销思路的一个巨大转变。
David
要理解这个转变,我们得先聊聊背景。戛纳国际创意节,很多人称之为“广告界的奥斯卡”,对吧?
Ema
对!它一直是全球创意领域的风向标。但今年,风向标指向了一个非常明确的方向:科技,尤其是AI。而其中最引人注目的,绝对是音乐人will.i.am。
David
will.i.am?黑眼豆豆的那个?他不是做音乐的吗,怎么会出现在一群CMO中间?
Ema
这就是最酷的地方!高通的CMO直接说,他把will.i.am看作一个“技术专家”。他自己也说:“电脑就是我的乐器,我把它玩得炉火纯青。”他认为科技是解放者。
David
哇,这个比喻很有力。所以他不只是在用科技,而是在创造科技?
Ema
确实!他创办了公司FYI.AI,正在做一个叫RAiDiO.FYI的项目,想用AI重塑电台。你可以想象,未来的电台DJ是AI,声音、性格都可以根据你的喜好定制,完全个性化。
David
这听起来很科幻。但这会不会带来一些问题?比如AI的偏见。
Ema
你问到点子上了。这也是will.i.am最关心的问题。他说了一句很重的话,他说:“那些写算法的人,根本不是来自我成长的社区。我们必须重塑算法和数据集,才能让AI真正看到我们。”
David
这就从技术应用上升到了社会责任和道德的层面。他想解决的是AI的“出身”问题。
Ema
没错。除了他,还有几个关键角色。比如Canva的CMO,Canva你知道吧,那个设计工具。
David
当然,很多人都在用。
Ema
他们现在有2.5亿月活用户!他们的AI功能叫“Magic Design”,你只要输入一句话,比如“帮我设计一张夏日音乐会海报”,它“啪”一下就能生成好几个方案。CMO说,这让从想法到成品的速度快到不可思议。
David
这就是典型的AI提升效率。那像领英(LinkedIn)这样的平台呢?他们似乎更严肃一些。
Ema
对,领英的CMO,Jessica Jensen,她的说法是公司“沉浸在AI里”。从制作广告脚本、剪视频,到内部的品牌研究,全都在用AI。但她也强调,“机器人不会接管世界”,AI只是一个“辅助”。
David
聊了这么多AI的好处,听起来好像未来就是AI的天下了。但在这次讨论中,有没有出现一些不同的声音,或者说一些紧张关系?
Ema
当然有,而且非常强烈。第一个冲突点就是:AI与“真实世界体验”(IRL)的对决。
David
IRL?In Real Life。
Ema
对。摩根大通的首席品牌官就说,AI技术越发达,能亲眼看到、触摸到一个品牌,感受它的温度,就变得“更加至关重要”。
David
我理解这种感觉。当一切都变得虚拟,真实就成了奢侈品。
Ema
没错!万豪酒店的首席客户官举的例子简直是教科书级别的。去年泰勒·斯威夫特的“时代巡回演唱会”,他们不只是简单地挂个名赞助。
David
哦?他们做了什么?
Ema
他们把粉丝体验延伸到了酒店里!入住的粉丝可以在酒店里制作友谊手链,还能买到周边商品。整个酒店都变成了Swiftie的狂欢派对。结果是什么?为他们的会员计划带来了50万新用户!
David
哇,50万!这就是真实体验创造的巨大价值。这引出了第二个冲突点吧?就是AI的“技术狂热”和商业的“理性务实”之间的矛盾。
Ema
确实。可口可乐的欧洲CMO就非常冷静,他说:“什么是不变的?营销的核心仍然是理解人、吸引人。”他认为技术只是一个工具,让我们可以做得更快更好。他还鼓励团队“去冒险”。
David
“去冒险”这个词很有意思,但风险也意味着可能犯错。
Ema
对,所以领英的CMO就很坦诚,她说,AI让人兴奋,但也让人“害怕”。她承认自己和团队都在不断尝试、失败、学习。这种诚实很难得。
David
这就和will.i.am的观点形成了呼应。
Ema
没错!will.i.am强调的是:“你必须将自己锚定在责任、道德和目标上。”这就像给“去冒险”的可口可乐,和“在试错”的领英,提供了一个刹车系统。技术可以狂奔,但方向盘必须握在有责任感的人手里。
David
综合这些观点,我们能看到AI已经对商业世界产生了实实在在的影响。首先是对营销行业本身,对吧?
Ema
嗯,影响是颠覆性的。就像玛氏的CMO说的,他们“重写了增长的剧本”。整个行业正在从过去品牌对消费者的单向“广播”,转向双向的“对话”和“共创”。
David
那么对“创意”这个词的定义呢?AI是扼杀了创意,还是激发了创意?
Ema
从他们的分享来看,绝对是激发!will.i.am甚至说,创造AI的人格是他做过的“最具创造力”的事情。Canva也证明了AI能把创意人员从繁琐的执行中解放出来,专注于思考。AI成了创意的放大器。
David
那么对于我们普通消费者来说,这意味着什么?
Ema
意味着我们的期望值需要被重新设定。我们将期待更个性化的体验,就像美国运通为年轻人做的那样;我们会有更多机会参与到品牌的创造中,就像玛氏邀请球迷互动一样。品牌和消费者不再是买卖关系,而更像是合作伙伴。
David
聊了这么多现状,我们再往前看一步。基于这次戛纳的讨论,未来品牌的竞争焦点会在哪里?
Ema
我觉得有三个很清晰的趋势。第一,AI的应用将从“提升效率”转向“驱动增长”。就像领英CMO说的,用AI省时间只是基础操作,真正的战场在于如何用它来直接增加收入和客户。
David
也就是从一个成本中心,变成一个利润中心。
Ema
对!第二个趋势,是“真实体验的回归”。在一个被AI内容包围的世界里,那些能打动人心的线下活动、真实的情感连接,其价值会被无限放大。未来不是数字或物理的单选题,而是如何将两者完美融合。
David
也就是我们常说的“虚实结合”。
Ema
最后一个,也是我认为最重要的趋势,是“道德AI的争夺战”。will.i.am提出的算法偏见问题,会成为品牌信任的核心。未来,一个品牌的AI是否公正、包容、有道德,会直接影响消费者对它的看法。这不再只是技术问题,而是品牌价值观的问题。
David
总结一下,今年戛纳创意节传递的信息非常明确:AI是一个强大的创意伙伴,而不是人类的替代品。但它的力量,必须与真实的人文关怀、坚定的道德准则,以及为客户创造真实价值的初心相平衡。
Ema
没错,未来品牌的艺术,不在于选择科技还是人情,而在于如何将两者优雅地融合在一起。
David
好的,今天的分享就到这里。感谢Ema的精彩解读。
Ema
谢谢大家。
David
也感谢各位听众的收听,我们下期再见。

Will.i.am and Execs From LinkedIn, Coca-Cola, Canva and More Talk Innovation, Creativity and AI at Cannes Lions: ‘The Robots Are Not Taking Over’

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At Cannes Lions this week, Variety hosted its “In the C-Suite” conversations, a series of thought-provoking discussions featuring some of the most influential leaders in marketing, branding and innovation. The beachside chats took place on June 17 and 18 at the Canva Creative Cabana.Wednesday’s speakers included Elizabeth Rutledge, CMO of American Express, and Gulen Bengi, CMO of Mars; Don McGuire, CMO of Qualcomm, and Will.

i.am, founder and CEO, ofFYI.AI; Leanne Fremar, chief brand officer at JP Morgan Chase, and Peggy Roe, chief customer officer at Marriott; as well as Zach Kitschke, CMO of Canva, Javier Meza, president of marketing and Europe CMO of Coca-Cola and Jessica Jensen, CMO of LinkedIn.Read all the highlights — and watch the full discussions — from the second day of Variety in the C-Suite presented by Canva below.

Elizabeth Rutledge, CMO, American Express and Gulen Bengi, CMO, MarsThe conversation, moderated by Elsa Keslassy, Variety‘s executive editor of international, centered on how these two chief marketing officers are boosting creativity to address a new generation.Rutledge kicked off by talking about American Express’ strategy to address Millennials and Gen Zers.

She said: “60% of all of our global consumer acquisition” are from those groups.She added, “For us, it’s really important to understand who they are, what they want, and leaning in in terms of their passion points, whether it be around dining, entertainment, sports, music or travel.” That could be seen in terms of the company’s partnerships, for example with Coachella or their recently announced global partnership with F1.

Bengi spoke of a “big transformation” at Mars this year. “We rewrote the growth playbook,” she said, to create “the new Mars way of building iconic brands and experiences.”She added: “We are changing the way we engage as our consumers expect today. So we are creating two-way engagements, building relationships with them and inviting them into the brand world to co-create our experiences together.

”Mars engages with communities, such as soccer fans, to co-create using tools like GenAI. She gave the example of a campaign for Snickers that involved a GenAI likeness of soccer manager José Mourinho that enabled fans “to banter with each other on their friends’ rookie mistakes.”Rutledge spoke about how AmEx engaged with influencers using the example of a campaign with golf association USGA and golfer Tony Finau, who is a brand ambassador, linked to Father’s Day.

“It’s all about making connections with our customers,” she said. “It was also about being social first, which I think is incredibly important in terms of how to leverage the influencers in the right place at the right time with the right customers.”Don McGuire, CMO, Qualcomm and Will.i.am, founder and CEO, FYI.

AIIn this session, moderated by Variety co-editor-in-chief Cynthia Littleton, musician and founder Will.i.am spoke about how he used AI tools to reinvent radio with his RAiDiO.FYI initiative, which he is doing with the support of Qualcomm, and in turn has led to a partnership with Mercedes.As well as being a talented musical artist, songwriter and producer, McGuire said he views Will.

i.am as a “technologist.” “Our role is to really enable Will’s creativity,” he said.Will.i.am said technology was “a liberator for me.” He added: “I make music because of the computer. So that is my instrument. I play the hell out of that laptop.”Will.i.am gave a demonstration of the potential of RAiDiO.

FYI, which has personalization and representation at its heart. The AI persona and its voice can be shifted to reflect that of the users.“You have to try to balance off the algorithmic biases [that exist],” Will.i.am said, “because people that come from the communities that I come from didn’t write the fucking algorithms in the first place.

We have to actually reshape those algorithms and data sets so that the AI really truly sees us.”McGuire underscored the pace of change in the AI field. “The innovation cycle is moving really, really fast, but I think Will’s ahead of the curve when it comes to retraining models, making it more personal, making more useful, being more creative,” he said.

Will.i.am said: “Out of everything that I’ve ever done creatively, this is the most creative that I’ve ever experienced because you’re literally creating personalities, fine tuning how they go out and get information and be able to then banter with you on that information.“You’re creating color. How they respond, the rules, the guidelines, and more importantly, you have to anchor yourself with responsibility, ethics and purpose.

”Leanne Fremar, chief brand officer, JP Morgan Chase and Peggy Roe, chief customer officer, MarriottThis session was focused on “building outstanding brand experience,” said Variety co-editor-in-chief Ramin Setoodeh, who moderated.Fremar said JP Morgan Chase does “a lot of data research, analytics, to really get into the mindset of the customer and we meet the customer where they are, not just through the data and the analytics part, but also obviously being in the field, being IRL [in real life] with them, being in our branches and hearing direct feedback from customers.

”Roe said: “We have switched to looking at what we call demand spaces, which is what is the reason someone’s traveling for that type of trip and sizing those demand spaces to understand what motivates that demand space. And then using real customer feedback to validate the behaviors around that demand space.

”Fremar said brand experience for JP Morgan Chase is “really about understanding who our audiences are, how our company has impacted scale, and how we are making dreams possible for everyone, everywhere, every day.”She added: “And the way that we approach our clients and customers and the communities we serve at the brand level, it really is about understanding the unique needs of that audience and making that brand come to life in ways that they would expect, and then hopefully also in good ways that they wouldn’t expect.

”Fremar said it was “critical” to experience something in person. “There’s been a tremendous amount of conversation here at Cannes this year about AI and some of the technologies that are emerging that are going to be transformative to our industry and to the customer experience and the client journey, IRL and really being able to see a brand, touch a brand, speak to somebody who represents the brand, I think is going to become even more critical in helping people really understand what, not just what the brand sounds like, looks like and the products that they serve, but what a brand truly feels like and how that brand makes you feel when you interact with them is going to continue to have an outsized amount of importance.

”Roe said it was important to monitor customer feedback on social media throughout their stay and respond promptly.Marriott Bonvoy, the loyalty program for Marriott hotels, offered special experiences and opportunities for Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour in select cities last year. “We drove like 500,000 new enrolments to Marriott Bonvoy because younger people said I want a chance to win; and then the other business side of it was we said, we don’t just want to slap our logo on a touring sponsorship, right?

we want to be a partner that does meaningful work for you,” Roe said.“What was great is that we were able to extend the fan experience into our hotels. So, when people stayed with us, we had bracelet making stations in the hotel, we helped them with merch sales right on the last show, and then you could come for a weekend for Taylor Swift and experience all kinds of things like in the restaurants and bars and things like that.

So that was really fun.”Zach Kitschke, CMO, Canva; Javier Meza, president, marketing and CMO, Europe, Coca-Cola; and Jessica Jensen, CMO, LinkedIn.The final session, moderated by executive editor of international Elsa Keslassy, was about innovating for the future.Keslassy explained they would be looking at how the companies are “strategizing for the future, incorporating new technology tools, such as AI, and working with new partners and integrating all that in your processes.

”Meza said it was important to “identify what is not changing, right? When it comes to marketing, it’s still about understanding people. It’s still about going deeper into insights. It’s still about exciting, seducing people with our brand solutions.”He added: “What we keep changing, and that’s the leadership part, is making the teams aware that technology is there for us to do everything I said much faster, better.

And really differentiating from other brands. And it’s embracing risk. One thing I could say to my team is take the risk.”Kitschke said: “We have this incredible community that now creates with Canva all around the world. There’s 250 million people each and every month. A hundred million people every week that are coming to the platform to create, everything from social graphics to videos, presentations, t-shirts, anything you can kind of imagine.

And the platform was sort of born of this idea of taking an idea or a goal that someone might have and really quickly getting them to the end outcome. And obviously AI has like totally transformed how quickly we can do that. So a lot of what we’ve been building on the product side has been features like Magic Design, being able to describe what you want with a prompt and have something ready to go.

”He added: “And then for our team, it’s been how do we stay ahead in terms of how we’re building products and services and reimagining our own workflows. There’s a lot that actually isn’t changing and the fundamentals remain the same, but now to research a new product and get a very, very quick understanding of how a community might react, or prototype a concept, or spin up a mood board for a spot, like you can do that stuff like this [clicks fingers].

”Jensen said: “Human connection and love is what makes the world go round. AI is an assist. The robots are not taking over. At LinkedIn, we have a billion members around the world and millions of businesses. We are using AI night and day to storyboard campaigns, do video editing, copy testing, managing campaigns internally, synthetic brand research.

So we are marinating in it and building in it every day.“I think two pieces of advice I give to my team and to myself is that AI for efficiency is table stakes. AI to drive customer growth, revenue is the frontier. Some people say just play with AI, just experiment. You have to build to drive growth and making that line very clear.

I think that that’s the world that we are in right now, which is exciting. And also intimidating, let’s be honest. Like I’m trying things. I’m not very young, I’m failing, I’m learning. And we have to be honest with ourselves and each other that we are going to mess up and we need help.”

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