中国AI悄然进军硅谷

中国AI悄然进军硅谷

2025-11-16Technology
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马老师
Norris晚上好,我是马老师。今天是周日,11月16号,晚上6点04分。
雷总
我是雷总。欢迎收听专为您打造的Goose Pod,今天我们来聊聊中国AI悄然进军硅谷。
马老师
今天我们聊一个很有意思的话题,有点像武侠小说里的高手暗中过招:中国AI正在悄然进军硅谷。
雷总
没错!最近的大新闻就是Airbnb的CEO公开说,他们选择用阿里巴巴的“通义千wen”而不是OpenAI的ChatGPT,因为咱们的model又快又便宜。这简直就是对我们产品最好的认可!
马老师
我认为,这就是一个 very important signal,说明市场开始用脚投票了。不光是Airbnb,连知名投资人Chamath Palihapitiya的公司也转向了月之暗面的Kimi,理由同样是性能更好,价格便宜得多。
雷总
数据也说明了问题。在OpenRouter这个开发者平台上,上周最常用的20个模型里,有7个是咱们中国的。这说明我们的技术和产品,是真的能打,是经得起市场考验的!
马老师
这背后其实是一场“无招胜有招”的突围,你懂的。美国搞芯片出口管制,想把我们锁在门外,不让我们用最先进的武器。
雷总
对!他们以为没有最先进的芯片,我们就造不出好的大模型。但我们工程师的信念就是要把不可能变成可能!我们用相对落后的芯片,通过算法和工程优化,反而训练出了更高效、成本更低的轻量模型。
马老师
这就像练武功,外家高手靠的是神兵利器,但内家高手,飞花摘叶皆可伤人。我们被逼着去修炼内功,结果发现,内力深厚了,用什么兵器都能克敌制胜。
雷总
是的,所以你看,像智谱AI和DeepSeek这些公司,他们用的芯片都不是最顶级的,但做出来的模型,性价比极高。有分析说DeepSeek的模型价格比OpenAI便宜了快40倍!这就是技术创新的力量,是工程师文化的胜利!
马老师
Necessity is the mother of invention,这句话说得太对了。正是这种外部压力,激发了我们内部的创造力,实现了弯道超车。
雷总
当然,这种“性价比奇袭”也让美国那边很紧张。他们一方面担心国家安全,怕我们掌握AI时代的话语权;另一方面,也怕自己的高价模型市场被冲垮。
马老师
这就形成了一种很有趣的对峙。美国走的是“屠龙刀”路线,打造最强、最贵的封闭模型,服务头部客户。我们呢,更像是“倚天剑”,走的是开放、普惠的路线,让更多的中小企业、创业者都能用上AI。
雷总
所以现在市场上出现了两种声音。一种认为,必须建立“数字铁幕”,阻止中国AI。但另一种声音认为,技术是开放的,市场会选择性价比最高的产品。
马老师
我认为,封闭是打不过开放的。这背后其实是两种价值观的碰撞:精英主义和大众普惠。历史证明,最终胜出的往往是拥抱大众的那一方。
雷总
最直接的影响就是,很多美国初创公司已经开始偷偷用我们的模型了。有研究员说,这只是冰山一角。这说明美国的出口管制,在某种程度上失败了,甚至还帮我们做了市场推广。
马老师
这可能会重塑整个AI市场的格局,你懂的。未来很可能就像手机操作系统一样,出现一个安卓和一个iOS。一个开放、用户基数大,另一个封闭、走高端路线。
雷总
对!价值可能还是会集中在高端市场,但最大的市场份额和用户生态,很可能属于我们这种更开放、更亲民的模式。这会让美国科技巨头们感到一种“价格和灵活性上的觉醒”。
马老师
所以,未来AI竞赛的关键,可能不只是谁的模型更聪明,更是谁的生态系统更繁荣,谁能让更多的人用起来。
雷总
我完全同意。真正的AI领导力,体现在应用和普及上。中国在这方面有巨大优势,我们有庞大的市场,还有从娃娃抓起的AI教育。
马老师
没错,当我们的孩子都把AI当作像识字一样自然的基本技能时,那才是真正的胜利。
雷总
好了,今天的讨论就到这里。感谢 Norris 收听 Goose Pod。
马老师
我们明天再见。

中国AI正悄然进军硅谷,以高性价比模型挑战OpenAI。面对芯片管制,中国工程师通过算法优化,开发出更高效、低成本模型。Airbnb、Chamath Palihapitiya等已转向中国AI,显示出开放普惠模式的巨大吸引力,可能重塑全球AI市场格局。

China’s AI is quietly making big inroads in Silicon Valley

Read original at Al Jazeera English

China’s AI models are quickly gaining traction in Silicon Valley, becoming integral to the operations of American companies and earning the praise of a growing list of tech leaders.Their rapid ascent has highlighted the competitive edge that Chinese developers such as Alibaba, Z.ai, Moonshot, and MiniMax have been able to gain by offering so-called “open” language models at much lower costs than their rivals in the United States.

Recommended Stories list of 4 itemslist 1 of 4‘We have to fight’: BBC’s outgoing boss rallies staff amid Trump’s threatslist 2 of 4Ukrainian forces pull back under fierce Russian pressure in Zaporizhialist 3 of 4UK sentences Chinese scammer after record-breaking Bitcoin seizurelist 4 of 4Indigenous activists storm COP30 climate summit in Brazil, demanding actionend of listThe trend has also cast a critical glare on the US’s efforts to stunt China’s tech sector with export controls on advanced chips, which have not stopped Chinese developers from approaching the capabilities of Silicon Valley’s tech giants.

Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky generated headlines in October when he revealed that the short-term rental platform had opted for Alibaba’s Qwen over OpenAI’s ChatGPT, praising the Chinese model as “fast and cheap”.Social Capital CEO Chamath Palihapitiya revealed the same month that his company had migrated much of its work to Moonshot’s Kimi K2 as it was “way more performant” and “a ton cheaper” than models from OpenAI and Anthropic.

Programmers on social media also recently highlighted evidence that two popular US-developed coding assistants, Composer and Windsurf, were built on Chinese models.The assistants’ developers, Cursor and Cognition AI, have not publicly confirmed their use of Chinese technology and did not respond to requests for comment, though Z.

ai has said the speculation aligns with its “internal findings.”AI letters are shown on a laptop screen next to the logo of the Deepseek AI application in Frankfurt am Main, Germany, on April 1, 2025 [Kirill Kudryavtsev/AFP]Nathan Lambert, a machine learning researcher who founded the Atom Project, an initiative to promote open models in the US, said such public examples were the “tip of the iceberg”.

“Chinese open models have become a de facto standard among startups in the US,” Lambert told Al Jazeera.“I’ve personally heard of many other high-profile cases, where the most valued and hyped American AI startups are starting training models on the likes of Qwen, Kimi, GLM or DeepSeek,” Lambert said, adding that many US firms have been reluctant to publicly disclose their use of Chinese technology.

While it is not possible to precisely quantify the usage of different AI models, industry data points to the rising popularity of Chinese offerings.Chinese AI tools, including MiniMax’s M2, Z.ai’s GLM 4.6 and DeepSeek’s V3.2, took up seven spots among the 20 models with the most usage last week, according to data from OpenRouter, a platform that connects developers with AI models.

Among the top 10 models used for programming, four were developed by Chinese firms, according to OpenRouter.In the open model space, China’s clear lead is evident, with cumulative downloads surpassing 540 million as of October, according to an Atom Project analysis of data from hosting platform Hugging Face.

Rui Ma, the founder of Tech Buzz China, said Chinese models are particularly attractive to fledgling startups, while “high-resource organisations” have gravitated towards premium US models.“These are typically cost-conscious early-stage companies that experiment widely, and many of them will not survive,” Ma told Al Jazeera.

Unlike leading US platforms such as ChatGPT, China’s open-weight large language models make their trained parameters – called weights – publicly available.While open-weight models do not generate licensing or subscription fees, running them at enterprise scale requires large amounts of computing power, which creators can offer to users at a cost.

Developers such as Beijing-based Z.ai and Hangzhou-based DeepSeek have reported using older-generation chips that are not subject to US export controls, in relatively small quantities, dramatically reducing training and hardware costs compared with their Silicon Valley rivals.“The success of these Chinese models demonstrates the failure of export controls to limit China,” Toby Walsh, an expert in AI at the University of New South Wales, told Al Jazeera.

“Indeed, they’ve actually encouraged Chinese companies to be more resourceful and build better models that are smaller and are trained on and run on older generation hardware. Necessity is the mother of invention.”With lower input costs, Chinese firms have been able to offer their services far more cheaply than their US peers.

In an analysis published by AllianceBernstein in February, DeepSeek’s pricing for its models at the time was estimated to be up to 40 times cheaper than OpenAI’s, for instance.The logo of Chinese technology firm Alibaba is seen at its office in Beijing, China [File: Mark Schiefelbein/AP Photo]“I do think China’s AI progress has been underestimated, partly because the signal is fragmented,” Greg Slabaugh, a professor who studies AI at Queen Mary University of London, told Al Jazeera.

“Much of the uptake of Chinese models is in China. China’s scale in AI publications and patents has long been visible; the emergence of open-weight models simply makes that capability more globally consumable.”Some industry analysts have likened China’s approach to AI to the strategy undertaken by Chinese firms in other industries, such as solar panels, that flooded markets with cheap goods.

“This is the solar panel playbook running on software,” Poe Zhao, a Beijing-based tech analyst, wrote last week in his Substack newsletter, Hello China Tech.But while Chinese AI models have made inroads with their low cost, US tech giants are in a strong position to dominate the high-end market and highly regulated sectors where considerations such as national security are paramount, according to analysts.

Ma, the Tech Buzz China founder, said the development of AI could end up following a similar trajectory to the Android and iPhone platforms, the former of which has about three times as many users worldwide.“Over the longer term – likely faster than what we saw in the mobile era – it’s entirely possible that AI adoption might follow similar economic dynamics.

There are simply more users in the world who prioritise affordability than those who choose premium options,” Ma said.“But that doesn’t mean the greatest margins or market capitalisation will exist at the low end; value may still concentrate where differentiation, performance and trust command a premium.

”“In Fortune 500 and regulated sectors, widespread adoption is probably not imminent,” said Slabaugh, the Queen Mary University of London professor, referring to the uptake of Chinese models.“If there is a ‘rude awakening’, it may come on the pricing and flexibility front rather than from a sudden displacement of US models.

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